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Starship IFT-5
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Alain Fournier
2024-06-26 18:01:30 UTC
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I don't know if @SawyerMerritt is a reliable source but according to him
no FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for
SpaceX's IFT-5.

https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958

"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the
operations of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events
for both the Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have
occurred within the scope of planned and authorized activities."

Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license
was much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much
more time than getting a launch license.


Alain Fournier
Snidely
2024-06-27 06:54:11 UTC
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FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for SpaceX's
IFT-5.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958
"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the operations
of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events for both the
Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have occurred within
the scope of planned and authorized activities."
Marcus House, NSF have also covered that, and I believe Eric Berger on
Ars Technica.
Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license was
much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much more time
than getting a launch license.
Alain Fournier
If a catch attempt is to be made, the FT4 etc license will need
modification, because only the FT4 profile was approved.

The replacement of Ship 30's tiles ... all of them ... may be the long
pole in the hardware tent.


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The Running Man
2024-07-01 05:18:05 UTC
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Post by Alain Fournier
no FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for
SpaceX's IFT-5.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958
"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the
operations of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events
for both the Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have
occurred within the scope of planned and authorized activities."
Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license
was much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much
more time than getting a launch license.
Alain Fournier
I tend to agree that no investigation will be necessary and that getting a
launch license will be a mere formality.
Alain Fournier
2024-07-10 00:41:12 UTC
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Post by Alain Fournier
no FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for
SpaceX's IFT-5.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958
"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the
operations of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events
for both the Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have
occurred within the scope of planned and authorized activities."
Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license
was much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much
more time than getting a launch license.
Alain Fournier
I tend to agree that no investigation will be necessary and that getting a
launch license will be a mere formality.
On 2024-07-05 8:20 PM, Elon tweeted:
"Flight 5 in 4 weeks"

So SpaceX seems to aim early August.


Alain Fournier
Snidely
2024-07-10 01:04:44 UTC
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On Tuesday or thereabouts, Alain Fournier asked ...
Post by Alain Fournier
Post by The Running Man
Post by Alain Fournier
no FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for
SpaceX's IFT-5.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958
"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the
operations of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events
for both the Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have
occurred within the scope of planned and authorized activities."
Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license
was much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much
more time than getting a launch license.
Alain Fournier
I tend to agree that no investigation will be necessary and that getting a
launch license will be a mere formality.
"Flight 5 in 4 weeks"
So SpaceX seems to aim early August.
Alain Fournier
Yeah, well, Elon Time. Mid-to-late August is the outside optimistic
projection, since Ship 30 is still only partly dressed, and a catch
means revised license from FAA.

Booster 12 rolled out today; cryo testing imminent.

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Snidely
2024-07-12 06:25:04 UTC
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Post by Snidely
On Tuesday or thereabouts, Alain Fournier asked ...
Post by Alain Fournier
Post by The Running Man
Post by Alain Fournier
no FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for
SpaceX's IFT-5.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958
"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the
operations of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events
for both the Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have
occurred within the scope of planned and authorized activities."
Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license
was much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much
more time than getting a launch license.
Alain Fournier
I tend to agree that no investigation will be necessary and that getting a
launch license will be a mere formality.
"Flight 5 in 4 weeks"
So SpaceX seems to aim early August.
Alain Fournier
Yeah, well, Elon Time. Mid-to-late August is the outside optimistic
projection, since Ship 30 is still only partly dressed, and a catch means
revised license from FAA.
Booster 12 rolled out today; cryo testing imminent.
Some sort of testing today (7 come 11) involving what seems to be a
small amount of cryo (LOX) and venting.

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Snidely
2024-07-15 21:49:00 UTC
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Post by Snidely
On Tuesday or thereabouts, Alain Fournier asked ...
Post by Alain Fournier
Post by The Running Man
Post by Alain Fournier
no FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for
SpaceX's IFT-5.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958
"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the
operations of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events
for both the Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have
occurred within the scope of planned and authorized activities."
Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license
was much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much
more time than getting a launch license.
Alain Fournier
I tend to agree that no investigation will be necessary and that getting a
launch license will be a mere formality.
"Flight 5 in 4 weeks"
So SpaceX seems to aim early August.
Alain Fournier
Yeah, well, Elon Time. Mid-to-late August is the outside optimistic
projection, since Ship 30 is still only partly dressed, and a catch means
revised license from FAA.
Booster 12 rolled out today; cryo testing imminent.
Some sort of testing today (7 come 11) involving what seems to be a small
amount of cryo (LOX) and venting.
And now check off booster static fire (10:13:50 CDT).

-d
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Alain Fournier
2024-07-30 00:50:14 UTC
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Post by Snidely
Post by Snidely
Post by Snidely
On Tuesday or thereabouts, Alain Fournier asked ...
Post by Alain Fournier
Post by The Running Man
Post by Alain Fournier
no FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for
SpaceX's IFT-5.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958
"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the
operations of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events
for both the Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have
occurred within the scope of planned and authorized activities."
Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license
was much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much
more time than getting a launch license.
Alain Fournier
I tend to agree that no investigation will be necessary and that getting a
launch license will be a mere formality.
"Flight 5 in 4 weeks"
So SpaceX seems to aim early August.
Alain Fournier
Yeah, well, Elon Time.  Mid-to-late August is the outside optimistic
projection, since Ship 30 is still only partly dressed, and a catch
means revised license from FAA.
Booster 12 rolled out today; cryo testing imminent.
Some sort of testing today (7 come 11) involving what seems to be a
small amount of cryo (LOX) and venting.
And now check off booster static fire (10:13:50 CDT).
It seems that IFT-5 is now expected to be in late August or early September.

https://passionategeekz.com/musk-predicts-that-spacex-starships-fifth-test-flight-has-a-50-success-rate-in-capturing-spacecraft-and-is-expected-to-launch-in-late-august-or-early-september/


Alain Fournier
Snidely
2024-07-30 01:30:59 UTC
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On Monday or thereabouts, Alain Fournier declared ...
Post by Alain Fournier
Post by Snidely
Post by Snidely
On Tuesday or thereabouts, Alain Fournier asked ...
Post by Alain Fournier
Post by The Running Man
Post by Alain Fournier
no FAA investigation is required before giving a launch license for
SpaceX's IFT-5.
https://x.com/SawyerMerritt/status/1801022437758234958
"The FAA is not requiring an investigation. The FAA assessed the
operations of the SpaceX Starship Flight 4 mission. All flight events
for both the Starship vehicle and the Super Heavy booster appear to have
occurred within the scope of planned and authorized activities."
Of course, after IFT-4, it was never likely that the FAA launch license
was much of a problem. Upgrades SpaceX will want to do will take much
more time than getting a launch license.
Alain Fournier
I tend to agree that no investigation will be necessary and that getting a
launch license will be a mere formality.
"Flight 5 in 4 weeks"
So SpaceX seems to aim early August.
Alain Fournier
Yeah, well, Elon Time.  Mid-to-late August is the outside optimistic
projection, since Ship 30 is still only partly dressed, and a catch means
revised license from FAA.
Booster 12 rolled out today; cryo testing imminent.
Some sort of testing today (7 come 11) involving what seems to be a small
amount of cryo (LOX) and venting.
And now check off booster static fire (10:13:50 CDT).
It seems that IFT-5 is now expected to be in late August or early September.
https://passionategeekz.com/musk-predicts-that-spacex-starships-fifth-test-flight-has-a-50-success-rate-in-capturing-spacecraft-and-is-expected-to-launch-in-late-august-or-early-september/
Alain Fournier
Yes, as captured by Ellie attending X Takeover:


Most observers seem to expect early to mid September.

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