What does NASA fart propulsion (missiles) want to keep absolutely hidden and incomprehensible

[pnn calmagorod]

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! 😊
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg 😊
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! 😊
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon 😊
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

[Dean Markley]

Post by pnn calmagorod
What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! 😊
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg 😊
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! 😊
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon 😊
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

[Doctor Who]

On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

[Dean Markley]

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

[Doctor Who]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

from SP-100 type reactors.

[Alain Fournier]

Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

from SP-100 type reactors.

SP-100 type reactors weigh somewhere between hundreds of kg to tons. I
haven't seen demonstrations of your prototype giving more than a few
milliNewtons of thrust. So you seem to be a several orders of magnitude
short.

You would need to demonstrate your device producing several kN of
thrust. You don't need a SP-100 type reactor to do that. You could use
electricity from a wire plugged into the wall. Note that even several kN
of thrust would not be enough to get you to orbit, because you don't
have only the SP-100 reactor to lift, you need to lift stuff for
guidance, communications, a payload etc.

You would also need to show that your device will still be working in
the absence of an atmosphere, which seems to many of us quite unlikely
because we think that your thrust is produced by thermal effects in the
atmosphere.


Alain Fournier

[Doctor Who]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:28:32 -0500, Alain Fournier

Post by Alain Fournier

Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

from SP-100 type reactors.

SP-100 type reactors weigh somewhere between hundreds of kg to tons. I
haven't seen demonstrations of your prototype giving more than a few
milliNewtons of thrust. So you seem to be a several orders of magnitude
short.
You would need to demonstrate your device producing several kN of
thrust. You don't need a SP-100 type reactor to do that. You could use
electricity from a wire plugged into the wall. Note that even several kN
of thrust would not be enough to get you to orbit, because you don't
have only the SP-100 reactor to lift, you need to lift stuff for
guidance, communications, a payload etc.
You would also need to show that your device will still be working in
the absence of an atmosphere, which seems to many of us quite unlikely
because we think that your thrust is produced by thermal effects in the
atmosphere.
Alain Fournier

so stay tuned for PNN developments and stop being a troll.

[Doctor Who]

On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 19:28:32 -0500, Alain Fournier

Post by Alain Fournier
You would also need to show that your device will still be working in
the absence of an atmosphere, which seems to many of us quite unlikely
because we think that your thrust is produced by thermal effects in the
atmosphere.

everything that you say will be demonstrated.

But in any case you think so because you don't know electrodynamics.

[Dean Markley]

Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

from SP-100 type reactors.

The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?

[Doctor Who]

On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:23 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

from SP-100 type reactors.

The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?

You are Wrong, its current name is Kilopower.

https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

[Dean Markley]

Post by Doctor Who
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:23 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

from SP-100 type reactors.

The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?

You are Wrong, its current name is Kilopower.
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

Yes, sure. That's intended to provide SURFACE power for the moon. Once again, how will you boost your drive into orbit? "Fart" power?

[Doctor Who]

On Tue, 17 Jan 2023 04:43:00 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:23 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

from SP-100 type reactors.

The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?

You are Wrong, its current name is Kilopower.
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

Yes, sure. That's intended to provide SURFACE power for the moon. Once again, how will you boost your drive into orbit? "Fart" power?

what a troll!

no one prohibits to use Kilopower for mission power !

[Otto J. Makela]

Post by Doctor Who
no one prohibits to use Kilopower for mission power !

So, your plan is to use a fission reactor to get out of the atmosphere?
Sounds even less safe than burning lots of hydrogen and oxygen.

[Doctor Who]

Post by Otto J. Makela

Post by Doctor Who
no one prohibits to use Kilopower for mission power !

So, your plan is to use a fission reactor to get out of the atmosphere?
Sounds even less safe than burning lots of hydrogen and oxygen.

prooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooottt

that's understandable enought for you?

[Alain Fournier]

Post by Otto J. Makela

Post by Doctor Who
no one prohibits to use Kilopower for mission power !

So, your plan is to use a fission reactor to get out of the atmosphere?
Sounds even less safe than burning lots of hydrogen and oxygen.

In my opinion, if their PNN drive worked as they think it works, getting
enough electricity to power their device would not be much of a problem.
Nuclear power is not the way to go because of, as you said, safety
reasons. You could beam some power or have an onboard generator. The
problem is not electricity. If they could produce a few kilo-newtons of
thrust while plugged into the power outlet, someone else would provide
power solutions for flight.


Alain Fournier

[pnn calmagorod]

Post by Doctor Who
On Fri, 13 Jan 2023 10:40:23 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 04:20:43 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 11:12:47 -0800 (PST), Dean Markley

Post by Dean Markley

What artemis returns to earth after circling the moon under air friction pan braking is about 1/328 of its starting mass!!!! ?
That is, in other words, 99.7% of the starting mass of Artemis is lost in a round trip from the Moon ….
Without landing on it but only currently circumnavigating it!
Here is what at take off is Artemis www.asps.it/artemistakeoff.jpg
And here is the scrap with pan braking that remains www.asps.it/ArtemisResidue.jpg ?
To make a comparison to which frogio vittorio orlanda www.asps.it/orlanda.htm and the bankrupt Pierpaoli www.asps.it/verme.htm arrive at full throttle is that if you travel with a car (of the Artemis type) at the at the end of the return you have less than the spare wheel left! ?
This is why fart propulsion has never colonized nor will it colonize even the Moon ?
would add that NASA's real fault is that it knows it will fail but still tries to do what it knows it will probably fail to continue receiving with only $$$$$ and media control in astronautics. https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/

So, can you elaborate on how you will get your novel drive into orbit?

it suffice to pump enought power feed into the V dipole, that's all.
when the impedance is nearly zero it becomes easy.

So, you are going to launch from sea level to orbit using your drive? Where is the power coming from?

from SP-100 type reactors.

The SP-100 reactor program never advanced to flight hardware and was terminated in 1994. So, you are going to use a never developed power source to get your drive into orbit?

You are Wrong, its current name is Kilopower.
https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/spacetech/kilopower

Yes, sure. That's intended to provide SURFACE power for the moon. Once again, how will you boost your drive into orbit? "Fart" power?

https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/