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Musk will soon follow close in bankruptcy of rocket propulsion
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pnn calmagorod
2023-09-10 17:51:37 UTC
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Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html

Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Sylvia Else
2023-09-11 06:33:32 UTC
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Post by pnn calmagorod
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.

And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.

It says nothing about Musk's efforts.

Sylvia.
Doctor Who
2023-09-11 07:23:42 UTC
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Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
Alain Fournier
2023-09-11 10:36:17 UTC
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Post by Doctor Who
Post by Sylvia Else
Post by pnn calmagorod
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
You do understand that SpaceX is a very profitable company.


Alain Fournier
Doctor Who
2023-09-11 12:04:49 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 06:36:17 -0400, Alain Fournier
Post by Alain Fournier
Post by Doctor Who
Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
You do understand that SpaceX is a very profitable company.
which uses only failed rockets.
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Alain Fournier
JF Mezei
2023-09-23 17:08:41 UTC
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Post by Alain Fournier
You do understand that SpaceX is a very profitable company.
Isn't Space Exploration Technologies Corp privately held company and
thus does not need to release financial statements?

Considering all the money being spent on Starlink and Starship, I doubt
that if financuial statements were released, they would show profit.
Am pretty confident their commercial launches do generate positive cash
flow when the customer is not SpaceX itself, but question whether that
cash inflow is greater than the amount of money being spent to so
Starlink and Starship. (and subsidize Starlink subscribers).
JF Mezei
2023-09-23 17:22:55 UTC
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Post by Alain Fournier
You do understand that SpaceX is a very profitable company.
The bigger picture:

Should Twitter/X go Chapter 11, it remains to be seen whether Melon Husk
will wish to keep control and invest more of his money to pay off the
$13b debt he saddled Twitter with, or whether he will dilote his
onwership and get the $13b creditors to become shareholders and oust
Melon Husk as master of ceremonies at company.

Being opaque, we don't know how SpaceX is funding its pet projects,
whether it is Musk&friends investing a lot of their own cash into the
venture or whether it is nearly self sufficient.

Should Melon have to redirect some of his cash towards bailing out
X/Twitter to keep control of it, it might force SpaceX to slow the pace
of devcelopment of Starship and reduce launch rate for Starlink. At
this stage of development, I have to wonder about financial advantages
of launching each 50 new satellites since the Earth already has coverage
and it is the number of base stations that dictate total system capacity.

From the moon point of view, Husk had pitched Starship as a done deal to
NASA, but it seems to me that it is far from it. There is still a lot of
development needed to get to a point where NASA would even let a human
board the thing, let alone fly it and land it on Moon.

Lets assume for a second that "Gateway" is cancelled and Artemis is
limited to weekend camping trips on the surface (Apollo V2). How
feasible would it be for Starship to dock to Orion to pickup passengers,
land on moon, take off from moon, dock to Orion to drop off passengers
and then also return to Earth and land so it could be re-used instead of
left in Moon orbit forever?

If fuel needed for return to Earth very significant?

Dean Markley
2023-09-11 11:31:01 UTC
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Post by pnn calmagorod
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
Doctor Who
2023-09-11 12:05:11 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
Dean Markley
2023-09-12 11:54:19 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
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Post by Sylvia Else
Post by pnn calmagorod
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
Doctor Who
2023-09-12 12:01:25 UTC
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
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Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
Dean Markley
2023-09-13 11:24:43 UTC
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Post by Doctor Who
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
Post by Sylvia Else
Post by pnn calmagorod
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Doctor Who
2023-09-17 07:38:34 UTC
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 04:24:43 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?

You will suffer less...
Dean Markley
2023-09-18 11:33:29 UTC
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 04:24:43 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
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Post by pnn calmagorod
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?
You will suffer less...
As soon as you demonstrate a reactionless drive, I will jump right on your bandwagon.
What are you waiting for?
Doctor Who
2023-09-18 11:52:16 UTC
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 04:24:43 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
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On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
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Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?
You will suffer less...
As soon as you demonstrate a reactionless drive, I will jump right on your bandwagon.
What are you waiting for?
You missed the demonstration because you weren't invited to. On the
other hand I was invited and I have seen PNN in action.

Kill yourself now!
Dean Markley
2023-09-19 11:36:58 UTC
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On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
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Post by pnn calmagorod
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?
You will suffer less...
As soon as you demonstrate a reactionless drive, I will jump right on your bandwagon.
What are you waiting for?
You missed the demonstration because you weren't invited to. On the
other hand I was invited and I have seen PNN in action.
Kill yourself now!
So, when does your first orbital flight happen?
Doctor Who
2023-09-19 12:01:05 UTC
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Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into space. So here: https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?
You will suffer less...
As soon as you demonstrate a reactionless drive, I will jump right on your bandwagon.
What are you waiting for?
You missed the demonstration because you weren't invited to. On the
other hand I was invited and I have seen PNN in action.
Kill yourself now!
So, when does your first orbital flight happen?
again fuck off again !
Snidely
2023-09-19 19:40:26 UTC
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Post by Dean Markley
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 04:33:29 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 04:24:43 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:33:32 +1000, Sylvia Else
Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the
massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program
to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a
report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have
been bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into
https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?
You will suffer less...
As soon as you demonstrate a reactionless drive, I will jump right on your
bandwagon. What are you waiting for?
You missed the demonstration because you weren't invited to. On the
other hand I was invited and I have seen PNN in action.
Kill yourself now!
So, when does your first orbital flight happen?
again fuck off again !
If you want to avoid our comments, you can just skip posting in this
group, where there's none of the resources you need.


/dps
--
"First thing in the morning, before I have coffee, I read the obits, If
I'm not in it, I'll have breakfast." -- Carl Reiner, to CBS News in
2015.
Doctor Who
2023-09-19 19:48:43 UTC
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Post by Doctor Who
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 04:36:58 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 04:33:29 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 04:24:43 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:33:32 +1000, Sylvia Else
Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the
massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program
to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a
report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have
been bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention into
https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?
You will suffer less...
As soon as you demonstrate a reactionless drive, I will jump right on your
bandwagon. What are you waiting for?
You missed the demonstration because you weren't invited to. On the
other hand I was invited and I have seen PNN in action.
Kill yourself now!
So, when does your first orbital flight happen?
again fuck off again !
If you want to avoid our comments, you can just skip posting in this
group, where there's none of the resources you need.
/dps
I do what I want, thank you!
Snidely
2023-09-19 20:11:38 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 04:36:58 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 04:33:29 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 04:24:43 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:33:32 +1000, Sylvia Else
Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System —
the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis
program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible,"
according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability
Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it
is expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors
have been bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian
propulsion rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention
https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?
You will suffer less...
As soon as you demonstrate a reactionless drive, I will jump right on
your bandwagon. What are you waiting for?
You missed the demonstration because you weren't invited to. On the
other hand I was invited and I have seen PNN in action.
Kill yourself now!
So, when does your first orbital flight happen?
again fuck off again !
If you want to avoid our comments, you can just skip posting in this
group, where there's none of the resources you need.
/dps
I do what I want, thank you!
Which is to come here and masturbate and act childish, eh?

/dps
--
We’ve learned way more than we wanted to know about the early history
of American professional basketball, like that you could have once
watched a game between teams named the Indianapolis Kautskys and the
Akron Firestone Non-Skids. -- fivethirtyeight.com
Doctor Who
2023-09-19 21:56:05 UTC
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On Mon, 18 Sep 2023 04:33:29 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
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On Wed, 13 Sep 2023 04:24:43 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Tue, 12 Sep 2023 04:54:19 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 04:31:01 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
On Monday, September 11, 2023 at 3:23:45?AM UTC-4, Doctor Who
On Mon, 11 Sep 2023 16:33:32 +1000, Sylvia Else
Post by Sylvia Else
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System ?
the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis
program to establish a moon base ? is "inaccessible,"
according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability
Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it
is expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors
have been bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian
propulsion rocket !
I suspect you and your cohorts need help getting your invention
https://estesrockets.com/collections/rockets?gclid=Cj0KCQjw9fqnBhDSARIsAHlcQYQ89mpo29QlGzeh-TV0cku-5JjH63JG-HSRt-zZUeUMjAl22jyC9bAaAqNYEALw_wcB&hsa_acc=9787008750&hsa_ad=504603911508&hsa_cam=12406691490&hsa_grp=121462491080&hsa_kw=estes%20rockets&hsa_mt=b&hsa_net=adwords&hsa_src=g&hsa_tgt=kwd-14843350&hsa_ver=3&utm_campaign=Estes%20Rockets&utm_content=gsem-rsa-01&utm_medium=ppc&utm_source=adwords&utm_term=estes%20rockets
We don't need any help.
If you don't need help, why are you so persistently trolling on here?
It is fun to see you troll-back :-)
How's that financial backing coming along?
Hey Markley, why don't you jump off a roof?
You will suffer less...
As soon as you demonstrate a reactionless drive, I will jump right on
your bandwagon. What are you waiting for?
You missed the demonstration because you weren't invited to. On the
other hand I was invited and I have seen PNN in action.
Kill yourself now!
So, when does your first orbital flight happen?
again fuck off again !
If you want to avoid our comments, you can just skip posting in this
group, where there's none of the resources you need.
/dps
I do what I want, thank you!
Which is to come here and masturbate and act childish, eh?
/dps
Proooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooootttttttt
Alain Fournier
2023-09-19 20:18:45 UTC
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Post by Doctor Who
again fuck off again !
If you want to avoid our comments, you can just skip posting in this
group, where there's none of the resources you need.
I wouldn't say that there's none of the resources that they need here.
If they could convince us all that they really do have a "magic drive",
I think that there are engineers here and I know there are some people
who at least visit occasionally that could organize some interesting
financing. But no one here will go help people who can't show that their
device works and have for most common answer variations of "fuck off"
and proooooooot.


Alain Fournier
Doctor Who
2023-09-19 21:56:29 UTC
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On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:18:45 -0400, Alain Fournier
Post by Alain Fournier
[snip]
Post by Snidely
Post by Doctor Who
again fuck off again !
If you want to avoid our comments, you can just skip posting in this
group, where there's none of the resources you need.
I wouldn't say that there's none of the resources that they need here.
If they could convince us all that they really do have a "magic drive",
I think that there are engineers here and I know there are some people
who at least visit occasionally that could organize some interesting
financing. But no one here will go help people who can't show that their
device works and have for most common answer variations of "fuck off"
and proooooooot.
Alain Fournier
Prooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
Dean Markley
2023-09-20 11:20:06 UTC
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Post by Doctor Who
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:18:45 -0400, Alain Fournier
Post by Alain Fournier
[snip]
Post by Snidely
Post by Doctor Who
again fuck off again !
If you want to avoid our comments, you can just skip posting in this
group, where there's none of the resources you need.
I wouldn't say that there's none of the resources that they need here.
If they could convince us all that they really do have a "magic drive",
I think that there are engineers here and I know there are some people
who at least visit occasionally that could organize some interesting
financing. But no one here will go help people who can't show that their
device works and have for most common answer variations of "fuck off"
and proooooooot.
Alain Fournier
Prooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
I wonder why the trolls never seem to understand that they are trolls?
Doctor Who
2023-09-20 11:57:44 UTC
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On Wed, 20 Sep 2023 04:20:06 -0700 (PDT), Dean Markley
Post by Dean Markley
Post by Doctor Who
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 16:18:45 -0400, Alain Fournier
Post by Alain Fournier
[snip]
Post by Snidely
Post by Doctor Who
again fuck off again !
If you want to avoid our comments, you can just skip posting in this
group, where there's none of the resources you need.
I wouldn't say that there's none of the resources that they need here.
If they could convince us all that they really do have a "magic drive",
I think that there are engineers here and I know there are some people
who at least visit occasionally that could organize some interesting
financing. But no one here will go help people who can't show that their
device works and have for most common answer variations of "fuck off"
and proooooooot.
Alain Fournier
Prooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
I wonder why the trolls never seem to understand that they are trolls?
Prooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooot
pnn calmagorod
2023-09-11 16:54:23 UTC
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Post by Doctor Who
Post by Sylvia Else
Post by pnn calmagorod
Senior NASA officials say the agency's Space Launch System — the massive rocket designed to propel its ambitious Artemis program to establish a moon base — is "inaccessible," according to a report from the U.S. Government Accountability Office.
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/09/07/world/nasa-gao-report-sls-moon-rocket-scn/index.html
Change or die https://www.propulsion-revolution.com/
Unaffordable.
And it's specifically the SLS that is unaffordable, because it is
expensive beyond all reason, other than that the contractors have been
bleeding the tax payer dry.
It says nothing about Musk's efforts.
Sylvia.
Musk will follow the same fate, as every other newtonian propulsion
rocket !
Really if Artemis is unaffordable it is a comic to think that Musk alone can colonize the Moon and Mars.
However this can be believed in Italy since the asylums have been declared illegaly :-)
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